The Election Results
Total votes 712
Elected were Mary Steffensen 429, Eddie Montalva 423, Pat Burke 389, Don Halback 387, Don Pelletier 374, Tom Bergsma 355, Jose Guerra 343, Annita White 323, Bill Gagan 309.
Not elected Virginia Martin 304, Ed McBride 287, Ted Burns 271, Shirley Ritten 281, Richard Hansen 266, Martha Nell Dodson 260, Joe Long 224, and Robert Wilson 162.
Thank you to everyone on the election committee, great job.
Good luck to the new candidates.
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A ZAPPER GNAT
Welcome Villagers
The monitoring of the 2010 Board will continue. There were again some discrepancies from last year and at the start of this year by the Board President. I am happy to say there is positive change with our new management.
This blog more than ever will try to further the transparency of all issues and reveal any half truths. If you are a concerned owner, either past or present, feel free to comment.
If you disagree on an issue, that’s ok, you have the right to voice your opinion. Comments containing vulgar language, racism, invalid promotions, or something that appears to be nothing more than a personal vendetta will not be posted. Please refrain from trivial back and forth bickering for it serves no one.
The monitoring of the 2010 Board will continue. There were again some discrepancies from last year and at the start of this year by the Board President. I am happy to say there is positive change with our new management.
This blog more than ever will try to further the transparency of all issues and reveal any half truths. If you are a concerned owner, either past or present, feel free to comment.
If you disagree on an issue, that’s ok, you have the right to voice your opinion. Comments containing vulgar language, racism, invalid promotions, or something that appears to be nothing more than a personal vendetta will not be posted. Please refrain from trivial back and forth bickering for it serves no one.
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43 comments:
this is not the end of our world, it is the new beginning!! we had a terrible year because of the sic: fab five and thankfully they were defeated! lets join hands and all cooperate to enjoy paradise
How is it that Gagan and Guerra got elected?
Hmmm, I guess those phone calls made by Larry supporters worked, that is asking for people's proxies.
Sad state of affairs for LIV.
Thanks Martha Nell, Ed, Rick, Jim, and Dick for asking for accountability.
Maybe Aramark will take care of Larry for us and then we can move on.
According to Larry, he did not get a raise this year because Aramark,his employer, lost the security contract.Pat Burke,our new chairman of the board and head of the management committee which negotiates Aramark's contract, is Larry's best friend.Larry and Pat would like to see our present security company fail.They will spin everything to make our security look bad. I predict that Aramark will get the security contract back and Larry can then get his raise.
A thought...
The fat lady has sung and unfortunately we'll be hearing her sing off key for the next three years.
Now is the time to put away petty pouts and accept that the Owners have clearly spoken.
Although suggested numerous times last year we were ignored when we asked for the Board to ask what the Owners wanted-by show of hands or special issue suggestion box. Maybe the New Board will find a way to get the pulse of the Owners and respond to their desires as they were elected to do.
RE:According to Larry, he did not get a raise.
That's a shame. How about us giving him a raise not to run security? Could benefit our park.
Yes, the fat lady is singing way off key. It is ugly. How long do you think we keep keep the licensed security? The new board probably wants Larry to have his raise so they will ditch it. Too Bad. We need licensed security that are committed only to security which they were not dedicated under Larry's plan.
As I recall, all of the elected BOD stood up when asked if in favor of a licensed security company.
Let's remember this if security issue arises.
Hey owners...
Really look at the # of votes. If the so called 'COOL' group had not solicited for proxies, of which there are approx. 200, none of the top vote getters would be there.
"Really look at the # of votes."
Are you that out of touch? Proxies are a part of the system, it's simply one owner allowing another to cast either his/her premade choices or trusting the proxie to make the choice.
If it makes you feel better to spin this into a close race go for it, but don't expect any rational person to buy into your unlogical thinking. As we Texans say, this was a whippin with a message.
I guess money talks....integrity walks.
The only "message" I see is that just because you won doesn't make you right.
Yeah, it looks like the rich guys got their way this time, but there is always next year..and this blog will keep an eye on them....
Let's just hope they don't sell out the park to Cowan and his henchmen. Sounds like it could be part of the plan...make the park look bad...people sell out cheap, and the rich guys buy up properties for the casino coming in to Padre Island.
Would you people get a grip? These are owners, not two year olds. They have a big financial interest in LIV. They have a vote and a BRAIN whether proxy or otherwise. They made their choice. Voting proxy does not mean you let someone else pick your people. It means you can't be there and delegate someone else to vote your choices. The RICH? COWAN? HENCHMEN? Do you have any idea how stupid this all sounds? The vote was cast. People won. People lost. Thats what happens in an election. Give the new board a chance. If they screw up, vote them out next year. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS! In the mean time, work to make it work, not FAIL! LIV belongs to all of us. It's in all our best interests to make it WORK!
Or if you do not like what the new Board is doing, just bring another lawsuit! Has a precedent been set?
"The vote was cast... Give the new board a chance..." Larry and company sure didn't feel that way after the '08 elections. Didn't the SGG file a law suit to prevent the '08 board from during what they were elected to do?
I also find it interesting that the group that wants this blog closed is using it to voice their opinions.
SIGHHHH! The Cowen Project is not going to happen! Its done. It was a test run!
A test run? If the board hadn't stopped it, Sullivan was going to send a letter to Cowan to be used for Cowan to get a loan for what he want's to do
DURING what they were elected to do?
I meant doing what they were elected to do.
Now we're talking "bring another lawsuit" and '08 elections. Do you not understand that this is 2009? And that we had ANOTHER election? And that it's time to move on? I was told that the candidates who lost had a party on the patio and that they were very gracious in defeat. They wished the new board well and asked for everyones support. Did someone lie to me? Because I'm not hearing much support on this blog. Outgoing board members, are you there? Oh, and about the blog. Yes, I've heard people think they can and should shut it down. That is so wrong. They can't and they shouldn't. Whether we like what we read/hear or not, we should never mess with free speech. I think the blog should continue. It can be a great source of information. I just hope the tone changes.
The party was super dupper , lots and lots of food, Karaoky music brought to you by Tom and Debbie and games.
The speeches where touching, previous members expressed thanks to all and welcomed new members.. They will continue to do their part in making this a better place to live. Very classy I might add.
Well said. It was a great party.
All owners should be so classy. Hopefully, the former board continue to be a force for good in the park.
May the Force be with them.
RE:Sullivan was going to send a letter to Cowan to be used for Cowan to get a loan for what he want's to do--------------------
You have a small mind.. Thats not the way its done! It would take more then the board.. a president of the board and a bank to pass the Cowen Project.
Believe me its over!
It was speculation!
NEXT!
Ask Sullivan. The letter was out there. The board did not want the Cowan Project and cancelled the letter.
That's not true. Cowen asked DS to write a letter....but it was never written. A major change in the village cannot be authorized by the Pres. or the BOD. Any major change has to be voted in by 75% of the owners. Please, read the by-laws before spreading these rumors. They are the kind of nonsense rumors that have been plaguing this village this past year.
The By-Laws do not say "any major change." It's not as simple as that. Substantial change is mentioned, but the important thing is COMMON GROUND.
The last time the owners were asked to vote on anything was in 1998 when the roads were redone.
Back in the Judy Voss era, they went ahead and changed the name of the park without any input from owners.
Let's say, since 2000, anything that you notice new or improved in the park has been done illegally. It's either substantial or on common ground without the 75% owner approval.
To list a few:
Tennis courts $75,000
Parking Lot
near tennis
courts $12,000
Activity Center
remodel $??????
Area between
pools $??????
Paved Paths
on Golf Course $??????
The point being - no BOD here at LIV abides by the Covenants and By-Laws. DS was well aware of the need for a 75% owner approval for the golf course, but felt he was above that. So what makes you think that he would act in a more ethical manner when it came to Cowen? Remember, DS wanted the Cowen deal.
And remember this, the BOD does what they want when they want regardless of Rules and Laws.
Perhaps we should keep the court supervision around for a while to keep an eye on these new board members.
Why are we worried about DS? He's outta here! And the Cowen deal is over! Go on to something else! I'm sure you can make trouble out of something new instead of trying to hold the trouble from something old!
RE: "Remember DS wanted the Cowan deal...."
Also, you need to realize that DS was taking his orders from Miss P. (Miss Pat Burke) while he was Prez....So you figure it out.....Follow the money!
Well, it takes effort for owners to keep an eye on things. Maybe it's time for owners to collectively review the actions of the board. Maybe there should be some oversight committees made up of non board owners....valid owners, that is......
Indeed, follow the money. Money is having an influence on somebody or somebodies in our Park. The Cowan deal was all about money. We need to wathch every penny this new bunch spends and review their activities with honest evaluations.
Maybe non board onversight committees would be a good thing.
Rick Hansen left the standing/non-board member/oversite committee topic on the table at the last BOD meeting, any bets on the new BOD following up on it!????
If you want to jump on DS there is a lot worse stuff to call out about than speculation on Cowen! It is water over the Dam(n) but just do not smile at some people like you used to, it validates their mis-conduct, (in their minds)!
I agree with the above statement.. follow the money. There has got to be a reason Myers, Zerbe, Schroeder etc. are so involved in "protecting LD".
You obviously have forgotten what it was like before when PB was Pres. We can form committees, monitor every penny spent, question things, point out problems & concerns,& make suggestions but, like before...we will no longer be heard.
I suppose there is always the court. Hate to say it but it worked for them. It could work for us.
Hearing now about irregularies with the voting. It seems some proxies were voted that were being held by other parties. So when the second party went us to vote with the valid proxy, the named proxy had already been voted.
It seemed odd that so many people "voted" since it has always been hard to get enough people voting to have the annual meeting.
Sounds like the deal with the court and the accounting firm is not finished yet. Probably going to cost us more money.
The Judge is not going to be happy.
The SGG people are shameless.
Hey March 14,2009 8:24 a.m.
"COMMON GROUND" CONCERNS
Get your facts straight. Dec. l,2001 the owners voted to change the
name "Outdoor Resorts" to LIV.
I can tell you don't go to the workshops where the board votes on the "Major Improvements". All the items you mentioned were voted as "Major Improvements". The area between the pools fell under the
Activity Center renovation which had some $20,000. appropriated. The
golf cart paths were old rock,asphalt paths that were renovated the same as the tennis courts. The road by the pavillion should have been voted on by the owners just like the pavillion was.The gazebo built in the Sea Cottage area should have been voted on also. "New Construction" not renovation what is already there.
The workshop is not for voting on anything - it is a discussion forum. I do not remeber voting for a name change, nor do I remember having the opportunity to do so.
The area between the pools is common ground - it was illegal to do anything to that space without a majority vote of owners.
The By-laws and Covenants clearly state what needs to be voted on and exactly how that vote is to take place and nothing like that has happened in this village.
On the right side of this blog are links to our By-Laws and Covenants and I suggest you read them before penning your ill-informed opinions.
The BOD does what they want when they want despite clearly written By-Laws and Covenants.
Why do owners have a problem with that? Those documents were written for our protection and future.
Let's video the meetings!
Maybe the "majority" isn't really the Majority......
no it has been proven that you are or were never the majority!! the majority has been awakened and counted SO BE IT !!!!
I really am not on either side of this accountiblity issue of the general manager, but I don't think the people voted for the gm. They voted for who they think could run our Village better. All the internal problems this Park had this year were over the manager's actions. I think the ones like above who are saying the majority had been awakened have been a little misguided. Interesting that the highest number of votes that any one candidate received was 429 and if math serves me correctly, this is not the majority of 1024 possible voters. It would be interesting to see what 1024 owners think about accountibility of the GM.
RE: "It would be interesting tosee what 1024 owners think about accountability of the GM"
Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants to poll each owner to get their take of the GM?
It's time for him to leave.
Re voting majority: There were 712 responsible people who chose to get involved and cast their vote. My math experience tells me 429 votes is 60%, isn't that a majority? And to pursue that even further the top 5 vote getters were elected by the majority of votes. I don't see any of the "fab" 5 even close-move on people.
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