Saturday, March 07, 2009

ACCOUNTABILITY
( 10 a.m.)

One of the overheads here in our Village paradise lately has been wasting part of your life watching a diminutive group blindly protecting insincere Aramark employees from being accountable for actions affecting our Village. In the last nine months when management accountability was a question, something would come to life that one could only describe as the “spin wizards of rhetoric”. These wonder workers would try to change the issue under discussion and put focus on a different one such as agendas, due process, evaluation fairness, wrongful termination, micromanaging, divisive behavior, Aramark’s contract obligations, disgruntle employees, destructive behavior and so forth. My favorite “spinner” is that the Directors were at fault for asking questions which forced them into their unenviable situations. Why simple answers can’t just be explained about simple accountability questions is beyond me. One must scratch their head as to why every accountability question seems to always be answered with additional verbiage that attack the person asking.

Since September, management’s actions have been done with impunity due to a court order that includes having a total re-election of our Board of Directors. This imposed order is the result from what many owners feel is a senseless lawsuit initiated by Director Mulch and last year’s director candidate wannabe Reta Priest. It’s apparent the lawsuit’s intent was to neutralized the majority power of the Board who were for the first time asking the management questions and holding them accountable for their actions and statements. The court order also eliminated any possibility for this majority to once again take action and try to replace positions of management.

The chaos began almost a year ago when President Sullivan decided it was finally time to implement a replacement procedure for the GM’s position that resulted with the majority of Directors approving instead an insignificant 90 day evaluation. This evaluation gave the needed time for this group to incite an extraordinarily invalid recall campaign appearing to be a first attempt to neutralize the Board’s majority power and when that failed this exclusive lawsuit followed. This is wasting thousands of dollars of owner’s money just to appease this group against management accountability. This group says they speak for majority of Village owners. They will soon speak for you again when owners receive the final bill from this court appointed agency running our election called Long, Chilton, LLP.

Everyone in our Village has a right to express themselves stating their concerns and opinions, but to do so at the top of your lungs, pointing fingers, and trying to impose your will like several people of this group did in the last Board meeting in support of a manager was totally unacceptable. This type of planned behavior has happened too many times at Board meetings when the GM is questioned about his actions or statements. This has caused so much damage to our once peaceful, friendly, and carefree Village that it may never get back to the way it was for the rest of our lifetimes.

This group seems to feel the only solution to this problem is to elect Directors who will ignore Aramark management accountability to achieve some peace and give the illusion that everything is just grand. If this makes sense to you then let’s succumb to Aramark’s management and exempt them from their actions. Our GM said they don’t get paid that much so why put this extra burden of accountability on their shoulders and their need to work with every Director. We just need bobble head Directors that will be happy to close their eyes and get our Village back like it was when many owners were fairly ignorant about the Declaration and By-Laws or didn’t really care about what was going on with their investment within our community.

I believe owners are now wanting to become more aware of what has been happening and wish to receive accurate information about their park? I don’t believe the majority of owners want what this group has to offer, the need for management accountability to be ignored, distorted, or erased altogether. If they do, so be it.







105 comments:

Anonymous said...

Here! Here! Kudos to Joey!

Anonymous said...

HUSH!!!!! the sleeping bear awoke and was heard!!silent majority was NOT SILENT!!!!!!!


now please close this blog and lets get on with life in paradise

Anonymous said...

No, do not close this blog.
It's the only source of the truth.

Thanks Joey for all your efforts.
Keep up the good work!

Anonymous said...

Accountability from the GM is now a thing of the past. A free society, where people can speak out is now a thing of the past. Darkness has fallen on LIV.

Many of you feel that good things will now happen. Many of you had no idea of the real issues at hand. Many of you voted the way you were told to in a letter
from the SGG. How so very sad.

That old saying comes to mind “be careful of what you wish for you just might get it”. Well folks that has come to pass. The main amenities at LIV are either in
the red or do not work properly and will continue to do so. Do you honestly think that Pat Burke et al will get the pools and spas in good order? Do you honestly think that the Grill will stay open and break even(forget making a profit)? None of these things happened before when most of the “new” BOD members were on the board.

My predication is that we’ll have a condo fee increase before August.

Perhaps in the good news department the “cackling chorus” will not feel the need
to “sing” so loud now. That would be wonderful.

A big thank you to Ed, Jim, Rick, Martha Nell and Dick for their hard work this past year, under very difficult circumstancies. You gave it your all and I for one am proud of each of you. A thank you to Joey for the blog. Don't you dare shut it down!

Anonymous said...

Re: "now please close this blog and lets get on with life in paradise"

Amen, brotha! I second that emotion!

Anonymous said...

we have wished for and received
THEY ARE GONE!!! soundly defeated!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Keep the blog, Joey. We're going to need it.

Anonymous said...

Yes, your wish was granted.
Pat and Larry will run our paradise into the ground, literally.

Enjoy the next couple of weeks of how nice the park looks, since everything was spruced up for the annual meeting.

Winter Texans should make a trip here this summer to see the difference.

The grounds won't be watered, all the hard work the Golf committee did is probably now down the drain,(sure Larry spoke about the sprinklers on several of the greens, but if the water is not turned on so much for the greens being green).

Someone should write a book about this past year.

I wonder if the new BOD will ask Reta Priest and LeRoy Mulch to pay for the lawsuit.

Anonymous said...

I still think someone should challenge Burke's creditials as an owner.

Anonymous said...

The election committee verified all candidates were eligible to run, so that is a mute issue.

Anonymous said...

creditials?

Anonymous said...

Credentials = Legal OWNERSHIP of your lot/lots would be the logical way to read it but perhaps there are several definitions of Legal Owner! Things are done differently in Southmost Texas, but a Legal Opinion may be in order. It may have been done by Ramona!?

Anonymous said...

I just don't see how she can be a qualified owner if her name is not on the deed.

Anonymous said...

The Election Committee verified with Ramona that Pat Burke is legally on the Board of Directors.

Anonymous said...

How can Burke be leagl if her name is not on the deed?

Anonymous said...

you just DON'T listen!!!!!! her name does not have to be on the deed. her families trust is on the deed just as if a company owned it and appoints a representative, there are others like that here. now for goodness sake SHUT UP!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Who says her name does not need to be on a deed? My family has a Trust, but I have no control over it. I certainly can't vote as a representative. How do we know she is a legal representative of the property owner? Has anyone seen a document showing this legal authority?

Anonymous said...

Credentials did someone say credentials? Last BOD meeting our GM said he would produce proof of his education claims. Will he or will this board just let him lie his way out of this too?

Anonymous said...

Look at the deed at the county. There is no trust listed as owner or representative. Just the name of Lucille Burke as owner. Where is the document giving Pat Burke authority over the property?

Anonymous said...

Give it up, already! You guys all talk about how wonderful Ramona is but now she has said Pat Burke is qualified and you don't respect her legal advice! You're grasping at straws here and it's embarassing!

Anonymous said...

Lawyers disagree all the time. Ramona is a good representative of the park. Why does no one answer the question? The deed - does not refer to Pat Burke or any Family Trust. The deed - is a legal document. It is the basis of all of our ownership of these lots.

If her name is not on the deed, how can she be the owner? What court would recognize a deed from someone whose name is not on it?

Can your relatives sell your lot even though only your name is on it? Mine can't. Can Pat Burke get a lown on the property that has only her mother's name on it? What other basis of ownership is there in Texas?

So as I've said, show us why she a legal owner, if as you think, she is.

You should be embarssed for defending circumstances you can't substantiate.

Anonymous said...

Would you just give it up. Geeez. It is apparent that this won't affect our favorite director. The same as it won't affect all the stockholders from businesses that own property here from being a board member. Face it,this matters little to owners when it doesn't matter to them what our GM does or says that affects our park.

Anonymous said...

So you really can't answer the question. The legal nicities do matter, even if this has not been adjudicated. You still have not offered any proof to her clain of ownersip. It does matter when we say only owners can be on the board. Corporations with shareholders are a different legal entity. Not the same as individual owners. Individual owners, unless incorporated, are just that...individual or joint owners. Pat Burke is not even listed on the deed as a joint owner. So I say lets get it right.

If she is an owner, show us the proof.

Anonymous said...

You might even wish to find out when this living trust was formed. Was it done recently?

Anonymous said...

She doesn't have to answer to nobody. She the President of the Board. Leave her alone and find someone else to bother. She saved our Village from the clutches of the directors who asked too many questions about my hero Larry. Leave him alone too. They are the only ones who know what is good for our Village. Their decisions are what counts and no one elses.

Anonymous said...

I thought "someone" (a supporter of the previous board) hired an attorney to look into the deed issue. I thought they found everything was okay. If not, I was misinformed and I think you should do just that. Hire someone to find the answers. Prove your allegations or back off. We're willing to listen to facts, but not willing to listen to whining. Step up to the plate and find the evidence. We'll listen when you've got it, not before.

Anonymous said...

RE: 'She saved our Village from the clutches of the directors who asked too many questions...'
Seems like you have a problem with someone asking questions.
This is what has needed to be done for years.
I disagree with 'Larry is the only one who knows what is good for our Village'. Larry is a proven liar. This is not good for our Village. Aramark needs to replace him.

Anonymous said...

Re: "She doesn't have to answer to nobody"

People like you are the reason we are in this mess. Apparently you were not around last summer when Ms. Burke did all she could to disrupt the Board Meetings....why would we not hold our GM accountable. This is our Village and our money....wise up!

Anonymous said...

RE: "She doesn't have to answer to nobody"

PB sure better answer to the owners. She was instrumental in the chaos this summer.
She defended Larry every time McBride, Hansen, or Peterson questioned about his actions.
She will continue to defend Larry in his wrong doings.
Owners be watchful and let your feelings known.
Contact BOD when you have a concern/issue. Follow up and make sure it is brought to the BOD.

Anonymous said...

We all know who disrupted the board meetings and that's why they didn't get reelected. And from what I've read, they accepted their defeat and had a party. So why can't YOU accept defeat? The people spoke last Saturday and they spoke LOUDLY. You are delusional and can't accept the truth. That says something about your character.

And yes, I know. You will turn this around into some of your deep-rooted rumors becoming truth and that the majority of the people who voted are the ones who apparently can't accept the truth. But we all know that's what happens when someone can't accept the truth--they twist and distort the truth into something they CAN accept!

Give it up! You lost and there's nothing you can do to boot Pat out. 55% of the people voted for her and THAT my friends, is the majority! So even if you COULD do something to prove she's not qualiied, the majority of the village would tell you that it doesn't even matter!

Get a grip!

Burke--55% (majority)
McBride--40% (minority)
Hansen--37% (minority)

Oh, and I almost forgot!
Long--31%--Is it any wonder why the majority of the people ignore this blog or that some of those who DO read it would like for it to be shut down?

Free speech is fine and dandy, but when a media such as this is used to try and sway people's thinking (especially the owners who aren't here enough to see what REALLY goes on) it becomes "confrontational" and that's what has caused the malcontent over the last TWO years, not just this last year. Furthermore, it would not be limiting free speech for the owners of this blog to accept the fact that the majority doesn't want to listen to the trash anymore and decide to shut it down! We are sick of all the conflict that arises as a result!

And the election SHOULD have made that very clear to ALL of us.

Anonymous said...

You do not need to read the blog or respond to anything in it. That is your choice.

Anonymous said...

You would like that. Then the ones who aren't here to see what's going on would think that EVERYONE thinks the way you do. The fact is most people DON'T!

Anonymous said...

Free speech is what it is...whoever "most" people think...people change their minds quite frequently....when they haer clear cut evidence of needing to make a change......not all folks are closed minded......

Anonymous said...

The Burke ownership issue is already out there on the Cameron County web site. The deed only shows one owner - Lucille Burke. Not Pat Burke...not the Burke family trust...and no joint owners. Take a look yourself. Would you buy that property without a Quit Claim deed from Lucille Burke. Your wouldn't buy it with a Warrenty Deed signed by Pat Burk.

You couldn't. You wouldn't.

Anonymous said...

....So even if you COULD do something to prove she's not qualiied, the majority of the village would tell you that it doesn't even matter!.....

I think a court can read a deed and see there is only one name on it. And it is not the one who claims ownership.

Anonymous said...

C'mon Pat, show us a deed with your name on it. You can't do it.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and by the way....papers filed with the Park office don't count. A Living trust does not count either, unless it's filed with the county and shown on the deed.

Anonymous said...

I think it's time for board meetings to be broadcast live via the Internet. This is a fairly simple straight-forward process and it will let all of the owners share in the event. This will probably stop a lot of this "he said, she said" stuff.

A lot of groups do this and there is no legal reason we shouldn't do the same.

For the good of the Park, as they say.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the Burke ownership issue - wasn't this election overseen by the Court? Then the court should provide answers about whether or not she is qualified to serve on the board.

Anonymous said...

I think we should ask Pat Burke a fairly straight-forward question at the next board meeting. The question -- Pat, have you got a deed to show us with your name on it?

For the good of the Park, as they say.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I don't think the Board would even need to approve an Internet broadcast. Any owner with a WebCam and a wireless hookup could broadcast the proceedings as a public service to the Park owners.

How about it, Joey?

Anonymous said...

Broadcasting the board meetings is just another free speech issue. Any owner can exercise his/her free speech rights and beam out the board meetings to the owners.

Beam us out, Scotty!!.....

For the good of the Park, as they say.

Anonymous said...

The election was overseen by the court. I think we could ask the Presiding Judge to read the deed and the Park's bylaws and make a ruling. That's a great idea.

Anonymous said...

MOST of us don't care what her deed says, we want her instead of Hansen, McBride or Long! That's why MOST of us voted for her! You can't get over it! You are an embarrasment to the rest of us! No wonder people around town make fun of us!

Anonymous said...

Often, I think, it does not matter what the majority situation is...it matters what the court thinks is the proper ownership issue. Amd the court could hardly approve of a deed that doesn't have Pat Burke's name on it....

Anonymous said...

Pat, bring your deed to the next board meeting. Show these guys you are a valid owner. Show them your name on the deed.

Anonymous said...

RE: You are an embarrasment to the rest of us!No wonder people around town make fun of us!

The people around town think the people in this park are nuts. They shake their heads about us keeping management that lies and laugh about hearing the park is paying for a director suing the other directors over nothing. Now that I think about it, it is kind of nuts.

Anonymous said...

Re: "They shake their heads about us keeping management that lies and laugh about hearing the park is paying for a director suing the other directors over nothing."

Some of you keep throwing that up in the air like it's someone else's fault than those who are asking us to PAY for it!

1) The ones who were SUED are the ones asking for their expenses to be reimbursed!

2) They should have thought about the consequences of their actions before they started their scams!

Anonymous said...

Re: "Often, I think, it does not matter what the majority situation is...it matters what the court thinks is the proper ownership issue."

Listen to what you are saying! If a court WAS to decide that Pat is not qualified to be a board member (which they won't) we would then appoint or elect someone with a like mind to fill her seat!

The election proved what we all wanted! It's not what YOU wanted, but it's what everyone ELSE wanted!

Anonymous said...

You think that's nuts? Read the last 20+ comments. Now THAT'S NUTS! Does anyone have an answer to my question about someone (I've since heard who it was but won't mention names) hiring an attorney to check out the deed? In fact, I seem to remember that PB thanked "that person" for proving her ownership and saving her the expense of doing it herself. Anybody? I just find it hard to believe that with all the legal stuff going on they would certify this election if there was a question of legality. If that's the case, then our attorney should be handed her walking papers.

Anonymous said...

This community has a bad name because we have a manager that has
refused to cooperate with others in the area and has antagonized people around town with his arrogant I don't need you, I know it all stuck up attitude. Just like PB.

Anonymous said...

Re: "This community has a bad name because we have a manager that has
refused to cooperate with others in the area and has antagonized people around town with his arrogant I don't need you, I know it all stuck up attitude."

What is it that our manager knows stuck up. Was it his hair, or was it something that stuck up to the roof his mouth? Oh, that's what it is, just like PB (peanut butter)!

It's amazing how a properly-placed comma might have changed the meanig of that statement!

Anonymous said...

People...
It's over, PB is in control once again for at least a year, and Larry and supporters are relieved (Larry's even attended functions).
Now as owners we need to be ever watchful this year. We can be just as effective as a director, we can ask questions of the BOD and Larry at the Coffee and demand accountability from management we have that right.
We just have to be diligent and make sure all are aware of the wrongdoings as they take place.
Be doers not just complainers. Be active at the meetings, speak to the BOD at directors meetings pertaining to what's on the agenda if you're not happy with what's going on.
Don't let this get you down. Know your rights as owners and demand that the BOD honor them.

Anonymous said...

Well, if Pat Burke's deed has been "checked out" by an attorney, why isn't Pat showing us a deed with her name on it?

Is it possible the attorney was wrong and we need the judge to settle the matter?

Pat, show us your valid deed.

For the good of the Park, as they say.

Anonymous said...

We need to be active, for sure. Asking for valid credentials of our Board President (a valid deed, for instance), non board owner ovesight of board actions, and Internet broadcast of Broad proceedings.

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of beaming out the Park's activities, including board meetings, to the owners using the Internet. Great Idea!!!.

Anonymous said...

The bylaws clearly allow directors who are sued to receive compensation for legal expenses. Read the book. The plaintiffs (Rita and Leroy) should have known this before they made big move.

Anonymous said...

You must not have ever attended the BOD meetings when PB was Prez. You can be just as diligent of wrong doings & be as active as you want. She doesn't listen! You can stand up there and pour your heart out & offer suggestions to fix things & even offer to help do it....but it all falls on deaf ears. You can get petitions going & get lots of owners involved..but don't expect her to acknowledge you or your concerns. Like I have said many times before. She believes she knows better then any one else what is best for us. She needs to be the big fish & this is the biggest pond she can find that will allow her the control.

Anonymous said...

Talk about a bad reputation. The word's out that the Park is the kick back capital of South Texas.

Anonymous said...

I've noticed that Section 82 of the Texas Condominium Act states that "unit owners" have the right to access "association" records and business papers. They don't have to be board members.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we should have a new position in the Park. Lie Detector attendant. Put Larry on the box every time he utters a statement.

Anonymous said...

re: word's out that the Park is the kick back capital of South Texas.

Sorry, but that "claim to fame" (kickback capital of South Texas) already belongs to Cameron County and Hidalgo County officials.

Anonymous said...

I'm not really sure we need to petition the board to do every little thing. The owners can certainly do things on their own initiative such as what was done with the golf course. Also Texas law allows owners access to "conominium" records...if we can just stay committed to oversight of the board, I think we can keep track of things and initate change.

With Webcasting the board meeting, all owners will be able to keep track and "strange" maneuvering by the board.

Anonymous said...

We seem to be in the middle of the "kickback" capital. We don't have to go along with it.

Anonymous said...

Accountability has been flushed down the drain.
Larry and Pat will do whatever 'they' feel is best for the park without input from anyone except RP and CD.
If any director quits, odds are RP will be appointed as a BOD. Won't that be a kick in the pants?

Anonymous said...

Re: "The bylaws clearly allow directors who are sued to receive compensation for legal expenses. Read the book. The plaintiffs (Rita and Leroy) should have known this before they made big move."

They ALLOW for it, but they don't REQUIRE it. The point is, the defendants should have considered a lawsuit as a possible outcome of their motives.

Also, it has become apparent that Joey is back to his old tricks, not allowing any opposing comments to show up on the blog.

So even though you naysayers think you've become the majority again, you're sadly mistaken. We all know that you never WERE the majority.

If any votes were entered illegaly, it's obvious by the results that they weren't entered by the SGG. There are more of them than the results indicated.

Anonymous said...

I've checked RP's deed. At least its legal. It shows a real Living Trust, not the name of her mother.

Anonymous said...

RE:They ALLOW for it, but they don't REQUIRE it.

Are you nuts? It’s their fault that they didn’t prepare for this asinine lawsuit? I have never heard of anyone being sued over a motive of asking questions and making a general manager accountable for his or her actions. If you want motive, this lawsuit’s motive was to keep the GM unreplacable and untouchable for his actions.

This park should petition to have Leroy Mulch and Reta Priest reimburse every dime our Park spent on this lawsuit and attorney fees used for the invalid recall. Again you make a point on pointless rhetoric.

I feel you might have something about the majority of the SGG. Let’s contact every owner and ask if they are for like the sour grapes group is for having our management not be accountable for any of their actions. I would be very surprised if 10% say that they are for no accountability. If his replacement would have happened last April, this Park would have been far better off.

Anonymous said...

I do believe you've all lost your minds. Go get yourself an adult beverage, chill out, and give the new board a chance. If they screw up - GO AFTER THEM. Until then, have some fun. Forget all this crap, get a good nights sleep, and wake up with a smile on your face. LIFE IS GOOD!

Anonymous said...

This has never been about giving the new Board a chance. That will come with open arms. What is still and will always be unacceptable is our GM and his continuing quest of fabrications. That crap of which you speak of cannot be forgotten. Liars at the work place should never be tolerated, you know that.

Anonymous said...

Then take care of the crap. If the GM has been doing a lousy job and the last board has been doing it's job, they will have documented all his wrong doings. The documentation should be given to Aramark and a new GM should be requested. Find out the procedure and get it started. This time it should be done the RIGHT way.

Anonymous said...

Documentation has been sent to Aramark with no response. So what does this tell you about Aramark? It tells me they don't care about us.

Anonymous said...

Did any one notice at the Coffee that we are back to the same old stuff as we were when PB was Prez before? Some one asked why there were no longer check off sheets in the bathrooms, pools, & other common areas and the old ones had not been signed by mgmt. for over a month. The BOD just sat there in silence for a nano second...then moved on to something else. Why didn't they ask Larry...he was sitting right there? Guess the check sheets, clean bathrooms & accountability are out the window again.

Anonymous said...

Re: SOS Said...Documentation has been sent to Aramark.....

Apparently Armark called Ex-Prez Sullivan approximately 3 weeks or so prior to the March 7th election to discuss the situation with Larry and Les (after they had received a letter from the BOD and possibly others). Good ole ex-prez DS told them he wouldn’t be the Prez much longer and they should contact Pat Burke as she would be the next Prez!!

So maybe some one should talk to her. Not that she would say anything direct, only double talk if that.

Did DS know something the rest of us didn’t??? Or perhaps this is just a line from a story book.

And the beat goes on.

Anonymous said...

Getting confused here. DS was STILL the prez when the letter was sent and HE did nothing? Aramark contacted HIM and HE did nothing? The previous board was still in power and THEY did nothing? Don't you think someone should talk to HIM and THEM?

About the bathrooms. The new board was elected ---hmmm ---- I think 12 days ago. This issue was brought up to the previous board one or two board meetings ago. I was there. I heard it. THEY were in "power" for a year. Why didn't THEY take care of it?

I want stuff done too, and I want it done right. However I don't expect it to be done in 12 days. I'm going to give them a little time before I start slapping them.

Anonymous said...

Let's get real, Larry refused to do anything the old board wanted him to do. His heels dug in and, of course, PB backed him all the way......does she have more to gain than the power??????

Do the self appointed "power brokers" have more to gain???? Evidently they like dealing with a liar. Makes me wonder how they ran their businesses?

Anonymous said...

As owners we should make Larry accountable. He is our employee and he needs to do his job.
Isn't it interesting that Hansen, McBride, Peterson, Dodson, and Young were sued for conspiracy in asking for accountability from Larry and now Burke wants to bring up inspections of the village. Isn't that what RH, ED, JP, MND, and DY wanted?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever seen Pat Burke's deed? You know, the one with her name on it?

Anonymous said...

RE:inspections of the village. Isn't that what RH, ED, JP, MND, & DY wanted?

It looks to me like a lot of things the "fab" five asked for is now....can you believe it....what a surprise....all of a sudden...owned by PB & accomplices? Hummm...could the "fab" five been on the right track all along?

Anonymous said...

The last "Coffee" must have been a real "dry cup" event, with the exception of the same old crabs going on about Time/Warner!?
When will some people let it go, we have GREAT cable as promised, the rest is up to Time-Warner to work out to get the fiberoptics across the "ditch" to our side so those who want the Internet service, etc. can hook up.
Sounds like all the work was done last year (2008) with 2009 Board moving to take all the credit! So what's new???

Anonymous said...

I have the Time Warner internet service and it is great!! The cable is a great improvement also and cheaper. What more can we ask. Thank you Martha Nell for all your hard work.

Anonymous said...

I know most of us are set in our ways... we don't like change...But thank you Martha and all involved.. TW came around last week and fixed my cable and went the extra mile to fix a few other things.
NOTE If you have no other services from TW just what the park has......and you have trouble..call, TW give the parks telephone # as the account # give them your street address and they will find you!

Anonymous said...

That's right.....thank you Martha Nell for dealing with all of Time Warner problems these last 3 months pretty much by yourself! No job that big can ever go without some "glitches" and you handled the "glitches" with supreme integrity! You are a class act!

And, by the way...we can also thank Martha Nell & the security committee for getting in legal, licensed Securitas. It too was a job well done.

Anonymous said...

We can thank Martha Nell, Rick, Ed, and Jim for getting out the questions that the previous directors DID NOT ask, like accountability with Larry and 'gate keepers'.
One should read the contract with Aramark about their so called 'security'. It specifys that LIV will have 'gate keepers', no patrol. Interesting that Pat said Aramark was the same as a licensed security company, but without the license.
I for one am glad that we now have a licensed security because of the liability.
I agree, Kudos, to Martha Nell and the committee for their diligence in getting licensed security for LIV.

Anonymous said...

I don't give a rip which security we have but please don't insult my inteligence with " this one is better"

Anonymous said...

Just having these guys being licensed and dedicated to Security is better than illegal and running errands for Larry.

Anonymous said...

EM,JM,RH,DY,MN,Are gone,and not forgotten.We can thank them for many things. But its time to move on.
We have a new board , so let focus on them. We must keep an eye out for the going ons in the park now.

Anonymous said...

Re: EM,JM,RH, DY, MN are gone.....

Ok, Folks once more from the top…We do not have a new BOD. What we have is “five old retreads” from previous BOD that constitute
a majority and four new people. Even if the four “new” BOD members
wanted to hold the GM accountable it wouldn’t happen as the five
oldie goldie’s aren’t gonna stand for that – at least not in the long run. It should not be a secret to anyone where the “five old retreads” stand on
accountability by the GM.

We do have to keep an eye on all of them.

Anonymous said...

Now we have the old "Building Board" back again....you know the "retreads" that want to tell everyone what they can do with their own property.

Back to their playing favorites with people they like and "no, no, no" to those they don't like. One of the previous BOD eliminated the Bulding Board because they were such a stinky group. I thought this new BOD was supposed to be bringing new ideas and modern ways to the park.

I doubt the "Building Board" has any real authority. If the Park's by-laws don't spell out a specific prohibition, there is really no legal way to keep people from building as they see fit.

A rerun of "grumpy old men".

Anonymous said...

Isn't it interesting that now that MND is not on the BOD, Larry and Armando are working with Time Warner. I recall Larry clearly saying in the Feb meeting, "No employee of his would do that work" when MND spoke of talking with Armando about the list of lots that had problems with TV and Armando saying he would help take care of them.

Anonymous said...

There really should not be this much trouble with the pools. The money spent for outside management of the pools is a waste of money. Any body with a decent testing kit check the pools once or twice a day can keep the pools in proper balance. Anyone who has ever done any lifeguarding knows how easy it is to keep a pool going right.

What a ripoff!!

Anonymous said...

isn't interesting:


maybe all that talk about mnd doing and keeping things to herself wasn't just talk. guess we will never know

Anonymous said...

re: "isn't it interesting"

What the heck are you talking about?
We know that MND was totally open and honest with all LIV owners. She did every thing she could (without "any" help from mgmt. by the way) to make the transition as easy as possible. If it didn't go as smooth as some wish....it wasn't MND at fault...it was LD and his mgmt. staff who apparently, according to LD, do not even report to him What a mess!

Anonymous said...

isn't interesting:

MND did what she did and didn't get paid. LD gets paid and doesn't do a thing. Go figure. LD showed this he did nothing when he didn't know TW used black cable wire also. I bet he doesn't even know where they laid the cable lines. When are we going to get rid of this fool.

livowner said...

Re: maybe all that talk...
Martha Nell did a wonderful job soliciting bids then presenting them to the board who voted for Time Warner(she voted for Arroyo)
She worked with TW scheduling the installation. That should have been Larry.
She took phone calls and made sure TW had info from people that Larry referred to her, since he did nothing to help with anything pertaining to TW.
She has been honest and forthcoming with all information about TW.
I appreciate her and you should too.

Anonymous said...

This blog has "broken record syndrome". I'm down to checking in about once a week (if I remember) because it's repetitious and boring. If you want the GM gone, do something about it. Complaining on this blog won't do it. The deed? Give it a rest. I'm going to say something POSITIVE. I heard (and yes, I am going to spread a rumor, I guess) that the newly elected board members from the Valley want to form a D & E Committee for the summer. Activities in the summer? How great is that? Wishing you luck and success. It would be great for the Village! Hope all of the year rounders will support their effort!

Anonymous said...

Show us a deed with Pat Burke's name on it. That will shut us up.

Anonymous said...

Almost a week later and still the same old "deed broken record". Why don't you help us all out and call our LIV attorney and find out the truth. Isn't it her job to make sure everything was done legally? We sure pay her enough, so make HER show us the deed. If you're concerned, do something about it - or, in your own words, shut up. If you are that concerned, it's up to you to check into it. It's not up to me or anyone else to do the work for you. We will all thank you for putting this to rest one way or the other. I (and others) really don't care if she stays or if she goes. We just would like you to either fix it or drop it so we don't have to hear about it any more. Please.

Anonymous said...

Activities during the summer? I thought that was part of Les' job...which never got done. It is a great thought, but good luck on getting it done!

Anonymous said...

When is LES leaving?

Anonymous said...

Les' job? Where did you get that idea? Do you know who plans all the activities in the winter? Do you have any idea what the D & E Committee is? Pay attention - It's unpaid VOLUNTEERS who plan the activities and make them work. It's been that way FOREVER. There is no reason a D & E Committee can't do the same in the summer. How about some support instead of the doom and gloom attitude? More and more I'm seeing that this blog is full of people who just aren't happy unless they aren't happy! With that kind of attitude I wouldn't even want to get out of bed in the morning! Life's too short. Smile once in a while. Try it, you'll like it!

Anonymous said...

there wont be smiles as long as the manager is here and people like Priest Burke the wife of larry they are not nice people. the gift that keeps giving I am sick when I see them together its a grime reminder.

Anonymous said...

Believe me, I think the D&E Committee do a WONDERFUL job for our Village. NO CRITICIZM THERE! If you remember, however, part of the "justification" of bringing on Les was that he was to be over the activities, both in the winter and the summer. Look it up.

Anonymous said...

You just can't see anything positive, can you. I frankly don't care about the "Les thing". I'm talking about activities for the summer with a D & E Committee planning fun stuff like the winter D & E has done forever. Support them and wish them well. You people are waaaaay to negative for me. Life's too short, and I'm not going to waste mine on this idiocy. I'm wishing the new D & E Committee well, I'm wishing the new board well, and I'll deal with individual "crap" as it comes along. I've got a lot better things to do with my life than plan ahead for doom and gloom. I wake up in the morning with a smile planning for a good day, and I like it that way. Truthfully, I think about this blog less and less because of the nastiness. I'd say "have a nice day", but you won't, so I won't.

Anonymous said...

And I wish to remind you that your comment is under the heading of "Accountability", of which we see very little of at LIV. If the D&E want to start up a summer committee, then more power to you. I was just pointing out that that was supposed to be one of Les' responsibilities and part of the justification for us having a hospitality manager. Accountability, folks. And, I will say "Have a nice day" to you, and even mean it!