Tuesday, February 03, 2009

BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING 1/31/2009

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

OWNERS SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEMS
Don Pelletier made a suggestion that future contracts have the manager’s signature on them also.
Director Mulch said he was ashamed with the way the board had handled the Security and Time Warner contracts. He said the security contract was completely controlled by Director Dodson’s committee and the Board was never brought in as a whole to discuss it. He said he was not allowed to see any of the bids, management was not allowed to have any impute but they will have to end up managing security. He said that it was arranged that the Board would control security instead of management. He said the contract was just a standard two page contract. In a nutshell he said it was vague and didn’t specify the exact duties to be performed. He said the only way to have the exact things you wanted to have security do was to bring in the Board and management. The same is said by him on the Time Warner contract. The manager never saw the contract. He complained management had no say but had to repair the problems.
Director Dodson’s response to both Don Pelletier and Director Mulch was that everyone was informed. Management was invited to all security meetings and only came to the last one. She said the Board approves these contracts after all were given the opportunity to review the contracts. She stated that she worked very hard on both and is not going to make any apologies when and if any member here who may have not received or lost their copies had to only asked her for another.
Director Burke said she did not see the Time Warner contract until after it was done and thought that Director Steffensen didn’t either.


PRESIDENTS REMARKS
Show of hands for the Saturday attendees that isn’t able to make Wed. meeting.


GM REPORT
There was nothing note worthy except pool and spa plastering is done and curing. Bathhouse one is going to be remodeled this week. Director Hansen asked about the treadmill down. Part on order was the response. Director McBride asked the GM about him saying there was no drain for the outdoor pool when there seems to be one and if that is in compliance. He said that is not a pump drain. He said it was an indicator drain showing that there is water underneath the pool when you drain it so it doesn’t pull the pool out of the ground. He said there is a new entrapment grate installed. Director McBride asked we were in compliance. Our GM said we are in complete compliance for all our pools and hot tubs.


APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES

Nov.19th and Dec. 17th 2008 minutes were approved


TREASURER’S REPORT
Revenue Centers all lost for a total of $78,278 more in 2008 than in 2007.
Director Hansen’s had a concern of approving a different monthly revenue number in the minutes than what is in actual months end.
The Board tabled a decision of where to transfer $20,000 until the budget is approved.

COMMITTEE REPORTS:
Audit Committee – Director Steffensen said the two areas talked about were the Village Grill and Petty Cash.They have had 28 meetings toward four revenue areas since August. They have made a total of 51 recommendations and have 20 in place so far. She went on to explain numerous avenues and examples of the different items changed and looked at for the Village Grill.
Director Steffensen made a motion for the Board to accept the Audit Committee’s Village Grill recommendations. Approved
The Petty Cash became a topic of discussion after the explanation of numerous recommendations. When Director Steffensen made the motion for the Board to accept the Audit Committee’s Petty Cash recommendations.
Director Hansen stated that manager’s personal use recommendation on the credit card was a little weak. He said on August 12th our GM used his Aramark credit card to purchase tires and wheels for his vehicle. Because he only had a $500 limit, He then used another manager’s Aramark credit card for an additional $58.61 towards the purchase. Director Hansen said we brought this up at the Coffee with the Directors meeting on August 20th and put it on the agenda to discuss at the next regular board meeting. That meeting never came. He said later our GM had said he had paid for this out of his own pocket and it wasn’t personal use on that credit card. Director Hansen said he was then shown a receipt that the wheels and tires were paid for on August 12th and that the GM did not pay that back until August 25th, after it was brought up at a Board meeting. Director Hansen said he thought that was a clear abuse of his credit card.
There was a very long pause with no response from the GM or anyone, then P. Sullivan spoke up and said I don’t think we have to go any further than that, it has been brought to everyone’s attention.
Director Steffensen’s motion was then approved.
Director Dodson made a motion to recommend to the next Board that the audit committee stay intact. That was so noted.

D&E Committee – Director Dodson explained a tremendous number of activities, way too many to list here.

Safety Committee – Director McBride talked about the coming Hurricane season and touched on attending these meetings because they will be very informative. There were other comments about owners anchoring their possessions and empty their freezers. An updated insert will be sent in LIV newsletter.

Golf Committee – P. Sullivan said there is a new driving net. Director Peterson wanted everyone to thanked Kurt and Jenny from Marlin Construction for their donations of material and labor.

Management Committee – Director Burke said they have had two proposals from additional Management companies. They will try to have their report by the annual meeting.

Pool Committee – Director Steffensen said they have purchase 30 chairs at the cost of $3300. The chairs being replaced had a motion to be sold at $10 each on Monday Feb.2nd. Motion was approved.

Election Committee – Director McBride had Becky Ray speak who is one of five on this committee. She made a thorough presentation which fully explained our somewhat different and difficult election procedure. Candidate’s night is on March 2nd, 7pm at the Rec. Hall. They will have a question box located at the Activity Center from Feb 11th-25th from which it will receive question forms filled out by owners on subjects they would like the candidates to answer. She said all packets will be mailed because we are under the umbrella of the courts and there are changes in these packets, so read them carefully. Every ballot must be signed. No ballot will be made public. She said this election has been designated by the court to be handled by Long Chilton, LLP firm and will be extremely expensive.

Security Committee – Director Dodson said this committee is an ongoing committee that is not here to run security.

There was a 15 minute recess

UNFINISHED BUSINES

This started with our GM wanting to put something to bed. He said he had made arrangements before the hurricane to get his truck painted. He said that this arrangement was canceled due to the hurricane. He said that after the hurricane he had it painted. He said he had a receipt for that and a cancel check from his personal checking account for the $600 he put down. He said he also had a cancel check from his personal account of $650 for the balance of payment. He said he paid out of his own personal account for a paint job. He said after the hurricane in one of the Town Hall meetings, it was brought up that they were going to present paying for my tire damage to the board. He said he purchased the tires, got a receipt and put it on the credit card. He said he withheld the receipt because he knew the credit card receipt would not be due for thirty days, thus waiting to present this to the Board. He said it was never brought up so before thirty days was up, he went to the front office and paid $558.61 and here is the receipt. He said Erma when writting him the receipt, mistakenly put the same date that was on the purchase receipt of 8/12/2008. He again said he paid for this out of his own personal money and wants this to be put to bed and not brought up again.
Director Hansen plainly asked the GM, are you suppose to use the Aramark credit card for personal use, yes or no. The GM response was when he bought this the board had made the suggestion that they were going to pay for the tires. Director Hansen repeated his original question and wanted a yes or no. The GM’s answer was yes I can do that. Director Hansen then brought up the wheels which had been purchased along with the tires on the Aramark credit card that were items not damaged and were not suggested to be paid for by the board. The GM said I paid for them. Director Hansen said you paid for them on August 25th, five days after it was brought up in a Board meeting about the paint job and your tires. Our Gm said he was holding the receipt to see if the Board was going to pay for the tires. The receipt that showed our GM paid for the credit card charge was dated on August 12th and not on August 25th when he actually paid. Our GM said it was a mistake and didn’t know about it until yesterday. Director Hansen said you flashed this same receipt at a previous meeting and it certainly appears that someone is playing with the books. Our GM said you have made accusations about me all year. He said I did nothing wrong and I paid for everything myself. Director Hansen asked when Aramark is to do their Audit and wanted them to look into the GM’s use of the Aramark’s credit card. He also said the GM not only used his credit card but Armando’s card as well.
Our Board President interrupted all this to say that he had agreed to pay for the GM’ tires. He said he signed a petty cash check for the tires after the fact. He said he didn’t remember the date of it but was asked to consider that.

Time Warner- Director Dodson said if anyone's cable reception is a problem, provide her with your lot info. A question was asked about service charges. Owners are responsible from the outside hookup box to your TV. It was also expressed that any damage to the property by TW will be repaired.

Microphones- Director McBride said we are now using three new microphones.

Office Computer & LIV website – Director Steffensen said the office computers are on hold until financials. LIV website has received three quotes; Rio Tech-$3630+$60 per hr, Blue Starfish Design -$1990 + $25 per hr., and MCC studios at $14,400 + $125 per hr. Director Steffensen recommended Blue Starfish Design. Motion was made to use them and was approved.

Fire Hydrant- Director McBride said he talked to the Fire Marshall and made arrangements to test the hydrants. He said there was no real record in the minutes of these fire hydrant bids. He said I won’t bring it up again.

Bath Houses – Director McBride said the signoff sheets are not being signed as frequently as before and feels that the cleaning of the areas are slipping a bit. After a three minute orientation from the GM about the sheets being torn off and trashed, Director McBride said that this was not the problem he was concerned with. It was that the areas are not being clean.

Major Improvement fund for 2009 - Director Steffensen said we borrowed $18,000 out of the operating capital to pay cost towards the sewer line removal and wants to replace it back in to operating capital. There was a long discussion of if this is where the money should be relocated.

NEW BUSSINESS

Allocation of $2000 to Bridge Board for the channel depth certification – P. Sullivan said they will not make such an allocation.

Aramark Contract, Utilities + one year contract-Director Hansen wished to have utilities work by Aramark employees better defined. He also wishes to have a one year instead of multiple contracts for Aramark only since they are already established and because it does not benefit our Village at all having multi-year contracts with them at this time. This was not approved.

Berry Pool Contract Agreement – Director Burke was not discussed.

Pool Consultant – Director McBride had the GM tell everyone the consultant after supposedly a quick look is doing this work for free.

Forming Standing Committees - Director Hansen had numerous category committees he wished to have assembled. It’s under advisement.

Benches at the Bridge, Sand dollar, and the letter lots – P. Sullivan said they are still being decided as to the exact locations and will purchase two more.

Counter Suing Arroyo Cable – Director Hansen thought such would help get rid of their cable equipment they have abandoned and possibly help the current litigation case.

Property minus utilities
-Director McBride wanted it noted that the Board will back up management in calling law enforcement when people steal electricity from a neighboring lot.

LIV Questionnaire – Director Hansen ended up saying this questionnaire will more than likely be sent as an insert with our newsletter and will not be in the electoral owner packets.

Saturday Board meetings- Director McBride ended up having Saturday Coffee and Regular Meetings happening every three months at 9am.

Burr Clover – Director McBride asked for management to apply weed killer.

Pickle Ball – Director Dodson has obtained the approval from the Board for Pickle Ball to be played on our tennis courts.

ADJOURMENT



31 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mr. Mulch, we are DISAPPOINTED in YOU sir!
It will be a good day when your off the board.
And its to bad you are leaving with a very bad taste in our mouths. You have no respect from us.

Anonymous said...

GM don't care about your reasoning, your explanation, your story,your lies, and well rehearsed
script. I don't care, keep the tires the wheels the paint job as a parting gift... NOW GOODNITE!

Anonymous said...

Disappointed in Mr. Mulch? Oh, but it's quite o.k. for Mr. Hansen to act in even worse fashion.

The POINT is that even if every board member AND management got to see the contract, the "fab five" banded together to vote it in, REGARDLESS of whether or not it was in the park's best interest. Since it went against the GM and a few other friendly people, it didn't matter what it was, it was going into effect! This goes for Security AND for cable contracts.

In essence, what Mr. Hansen is accusing our GM of is theft. Whether or not he used the credit card in an unauthorized fashion is just a way for him to make his point. He is publicly calling our GM a thief and this is the kind of behavior that brings on lawsuits. We have one in the works already, and if we don't vote in better directors in March, it will only get worse.

Get out of town, Hansen, and take Peterson with you.

Anonymous said...

Judging from the audience and the people on the street afterwards, it's HANSEN that everyone is disappointed with.

It doesn't really matter whether everyone got a copy of those two contracts or not, the "fab five" banded together and voted them in REGARDLESS.

Hansen is publicly accusing our GM of theft. This kind of behaviour has no place in a board of director's meeting, or for a director at any time or in any place. It also places us in danger of more lawsuits.

Anonymous said...

Mr Hansen has enough courage to bring up tough matters and try to deal with them. Do you as residents of this community not care if we are being ripped off by our gm?
Does it not matter that he lies to us time after time? People are just willing to bury their heads in the sand. Keep it up Mr Hansen and thank you for caring!!

Anonymous said...

It surprises me that LD & his 3 board members are upset about TW coming in. LD tried for months to get TW in here & then when MND finally gets it voted in...he refuses to work with them?? Why are they all kicking up a stink? If he misplaced the contract MND left on his desk, why didn't he just call & ask for another copy? It just doesn't add up??

Anonymous said...

I am not a fan of RH,I didn't vote for him. Simple because two lawyers on the board was like two women sharing the same kitchen! Water and oil, driving up the wrong way on a one way street! Nothing would get done and there would always be controversy.

Q:What do you have if two lawyers are buried up to their necks in cement?
A: Not enough cement

I will not vote for him .. he is to pushy and lacks charisma.

He does ask tough questions ..if you spend a $ you better know where the $ goes GM, not just give an explanations! No matter who's asking.

Anonymous said...

RE: mr hansen
evidently you didn't hear the pres say I AUTHORIZED THAT USE OF THAT CREDIT CARD hansen, hopfully is a shorttimer. the board needs better people than him and they are running!!!!

Anonymous said...

I also heard the pres say "after the fact". All you will have without Hansen is the same out of control and no accountablity GM.

Anonymous said...

RE:
I will not vote for him .. he is to pushy and lacks charisma.

Is this a good reason to vote or not vote for anyone? I don't think so. That's how we end up with idiots in office like G. Bush,nice smile with no brain.

Anonymous said...

This has nothing to do with who has charisma or not. Mr Hansen might have no charisma, but how important is charisma if all it does is camouflage the blatant lies that are told time and time again. How could you defenders of our "snake in the garden of eve" BUY IT TIME AFTER TIME. You are just as bad as PB, LR and MS who thinks the sun rises and sets on our GM.

Anonymous said...

You have to know how to work with people. He is always on the
DE FENCE! The other lawyer talks to much and never smiles! With this group ..I wonder why.

Anonymous said...

It's hard for me to believe the Pres. authorized those tires. Didn't PB say she authorized them last Aug?
The pres. wasn't even here. And what right do either of them have to authorize something like that without the vote of the board? I don't think it happened. Once again covering for the GM. When will it end?

Anonymous said...

The 'tire' incident happened in all the chaos of Dolly.
I recall that it was discussed to replace 2 tires for one of the gatekeepers who stayed to help.
I do not recall anything about the GM's tires.

Anonymous said...

Let me get this straight: RH sees toilet paper on the bathhouse wall for a month and waits a month for the meeting to harass the GM about it in front of 200 people? Anyone else would bring it to managements attention right away even without an audience. It is clear the motivation was not to get the bathhouse cleaned.

Anonymous said...

RE: Let me get this straight:

First of all it was EM and not RH. Second EM had only asked for management to make a note that he felt that the cleaning of the common areas had slipped some and that was only brought up after the GM was giving his lame excuses again. Third there have never been 200 people in any regular meeting. Fourth the court has made our manager unavailable to five of the six that were sued. They by court order can only convey through the President who is the only one authorized to speak to the GM, and conveying through him is like talking to a wall. This is the only means to address a problem with management who doesn’t listen to anyone anyway. Now you got it straight.

Anonymous said...

March will show you how much charisma has to do with it. Hansen will be out.

Come on, March!

Anonymous said...

You know the thing that ticks me off is the hypocrisy on the part of our GM. He takes shots at hispanics whenever he can, lazy, uneducated, WELFARE, yet when push comes to shove they are the ones that save his butt time and time again.(from his employees to poor owners he keeps handy for when the going gets tough) I hope for all our sakes that they stop and really think about who their vote is going to because even though our GM is going around informing everyone that THE VALLEY VOTES ARE IN HIS POCKET there is still time to turn it around and make educated decisions based on facts and not just on the gringo who pretends to be a compadre only until the compadre turns his back. JG, please proceed with caution. You and your lovely wife are highly educated people ask questions, judge for yourselves. You were his "JP" when you were on the board, just in a more subdued manner. Those stories about you liking your beverage of choice a little too much, you and your mishap with our bridge, you and your lack of knowledge relating to anything on the BOD... where do you think I heard those stories??
And now he thinks the old gringo just says a couple of nice things to the 'ol mexicano and he'll be at the old beck and call once again.

Anonymous said...

JG was not a very impressive Board member. He is not much liked on the street where he lives either.

Anonymous said...

JG was a WHOLE LOT better board memeber than EM,RH or JP.

And he's smart enough to know that all you are doing is trying to sway the vote at this time.

Why would the GM need to have votes in his pocket? He's not running--he's the GM. All you are doing is pointing out that the group of people who have a personal vendetta against him are running for that very reason.

Hello, LIV! This is what got us to where we are. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER YEAR WITH THIS TYPE OF PEOPLE ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS! Don't let their lame words on this blog fool you!

Anonymous said...

RP and others where told this blog is here to express yourself. Sometimes we recieve some useful information. DEAL WITH IT.
You are here to express yourself also. We will deal with.

The truth will prevail. It always does. You had your 15 mins of fame.
But you continue to kick your feet and have tamtrums. Sort of like my brother did. I have a feeling blogger you stand alone!
Help us repair our home.

Anonymous said...

And he's smart enough to know that all you are doing is trying to sway the vote at this time.

Lets hope for all our sakes, especially the hispanic population at LIV, he is UNBIASED and intelligent enough to see things for what they are. You can give a snake wings but that doesn't make it an angel. I think JG owes it to his supporters to ask the really hard questions, even if it means being wrong about someone. It is better to find out now than after he's staked his reputation on someone who's not worth the grief this community has been put through. As far as the votes, gimme a break, he grovels for those, just ask JE and his many votes. What is sweeter than choosing who will oversee you OR NOT.

Anonymous said...

Misuse of the word grovel, unless you're talking about him doing something dirty to GET those votes. That would be a proper use, I guess. And then there's "What is sweeter than choosing who will oversee you OR NOT." Is this a question or a statement? A question is supposed to have a question mark at the end, and if it's a statement, it's not a complete sentence. I would like to see an intelligent response once in a while. If not, your opinion lacks in its credibility.

Anonymous said...

grov·el
1. to behave excessively humbly towards someone, esp. a superior, in an attempt to win his or her favour

I believe my grammatical error is called a "typo". As for credibility, it has a lot more to do with the company you keep. And based on your response, we all know who is in your company. Please feel free to correct the grammar, as I realize there is not much else you can say.

Anonymous said...

New web site was approved, any idea on when it will be completed? Sooner the better, because current website is cruddy!

Anonymous said...

I don't know who corrected you on that the first time around, but they were right, and if it was a "typo", just what exactly did you intend to type?

I would have let the grammar police ask you but I got weary of waiting! :)

Anonymous said...

RE: GM with votes in his pocket, why?
Simple answer: Votes equals Board members equals Saving His Job equals Aaramark contract retained!
As to JG, would like to know why he "bailed" out from his last term?

Anonymous said...

Don't recall JG "bailing out". You're just starting more rumors.

Anonymous said...

No, JG did not bail out, it stuck around, doing nothing, until the end of his term. For those of you who have never served on the board, News Flash--there is work to do between meeting. JG was never around for that work, hardly attended any Coffees, and often missed the Bd meeting. SMART! Who ever said he was smart? He was in charge of the Districts school buses, for crying out loud. How smart is that?

Anonymous said...

Just a little smarter than the majority of blog contributers!

Anonymous said...

So, I guess the new LIV web site that was approved at this meeting, won't be ready in time for the Annual Owner's Meeting?