Wednesday, October 15, 2008


COFFEE WITH THE DIRECTORS 10/15/2008

After the Pledge of Allegiance, Vice President Young started the meeting saying that the comments will be available three days after the Coffee meeting for later review by owners at the Library. Lot #155 asks the Board make owners more aware of new lawsuits and what they involve. President S. said his feeling is that we all should know what’s going on. Director Burke then gave her legal summary of the procedure. President Sullivan finally said it will be posted on Channel 2 to review such info in our library as it materializes.
Lot #686 commented about the lawsuit brought against the directors. They said they were unaware that our Village had an unlicensed security. Their third item was that they felt this board member doing the suing should not be able to participate with board business.
Lot #281 said all the board members should rerun for the board.
Lot #685 comments were the same as #686 with the addition if the owner who sued the directors was so upset with the way things are, she might consider moving. A member of the SGG asked for their name.
Lot #249 suggested more owner input on issues and that this blog should not represent the majority of the people views.
Lot #245 asked about the Arroyo Cable lawsuit. Director Dodson expressed that they are suing that we owe them over $1,650,000 but will settle for $750K. The thinking is that they have a weak case but a judge decides. LIV had a long history of each month monitoring how many units were occupied using the service and that is what we paid. Now they want LIV to pay for the past years the full number whether occupied or not.

Questions from the audience

Selba Campbell gave information about voting and asked for permission from the board to have a little campaigning done on the first chicken night. The OK was given.
Our general manager said our LIV email was hacked into and is ruined. He said he’s got the FBI working on solving this huge problem. Armando had a stint put in for the second time and is doing ok. Our general manager said he also had bypass surgery but would be back to work on Monday.
A sea cottage owner complained about the numerous sets of golf clubs being stolen and asked to enforce the after dark rule that workers have to leave by sunset.
Lot #65 said that our gate keepers were letting people in the park without checking.
An owner came up said that she thought security was on the ball most of the time.
Lot #312 owner said his guests were not being stopped at all by security. They gave passes with no expiration date and never looked at the pass when coming in the park.
Lot #689 wanted the butterfly garden to be taken care of when time permits.
Someone from the audience name John was kept from voicing his opinion when our general manager said he was not an owner.
An owner asked about adding a third employee towards the much needed grass cutting on the golf course. The answer was they added a part time this year already.

WORKSHOP

Director Peterson discussed the problem about a resident staying at lot #254 in which our Village had a TRO put on. It was brought up to clarify that he is suppose to help in this matter.
Director Dodson asked to mow the grass at the corner exit stop sign just pass the security gate and our general manager said that Marcus would take care of it.
Director Mulch wanted to present the three bids to the outdoor pool repair and put that on the agenda, along with the sidewalks at four locations and have the bath house be debated.
Director Steffensen brought up that on April 23rd she had allocated $27K to cover bath houses #1&3, not $27K for just for #1. A discussion took place about how to obtain an accurate dollar figure and it was put on the agenda.
The subject of this new fire hydrant was brought up. Our general manager said he talked to the fire marshal and was told he had no legal jurisdiction in our Village, but discussed what was legal. He told our manager that they too have to dig around some of their hydrants but failed to tell him if they were originally installed that way and approved. The fire marshal said he had no problem with ours and our general manager said he was going to dig around it some more. It was suggested to have the hydrant install correctly and the general manager said he has to have some standard to show them that it’s incorrect, which at this moment he doesn’t have. The people who had us wait ten months to install this according to our GM have not yet been paid. It was also asked if this hydrant had been tested. Our GM said no.
Robinson Pools gave a bid of $65,000, Berry Pools $58,500 to fix the pool bottom. It was discussed why only two bids and our GM said he contacted five or six.
Mary Steffensen said we had allocated $32,000 in the budget for the pool repair.
Mary Steffensen talked about revenues and the increase in prices for the cost of goods that will reflect on what we charge in the restaurant. The credit card charges have went up and a 3% credit card charge is to be reviewed for the Pro shop and rental department.
Director McBride asked to have shutoff valves to replace the pneumatic valves for the sprinkler systems.
Director Peterson requested that we start to work on the weed burr problem.
Mary Steffensen said we need to search for a cheaper transportation cost for our golf course sand.
Director Burke said that the Board had an outstanding variance to look at and put it on the agenda list.
It was put on the agenda if our Village should add to the employee appreciation fund raiser.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT THE COWEN PROJECT?

Anonymous said...

So the LIV email has been hacked and the GM has the FBI on the case! WOW. Is this the first that the BOD has heard about that? Does anyone beside Larry and his staff know about it? Sorry, but given the GM's track record on straight talk I'm not too sure I fully believe this.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Joe once again for the excellent summation of the coffee.
I disagree with L249 that this blog was not the views of the majority of the owners.
People have the opportunity to make any comment they wish and it will be posted as long as it's not vulgar or a personal attack on someone.
I also want to say I agree with L155 that the suing Board member should not be allowed to participate in Board business as it could create a hostile environment because of the lawsuit he brough forth against MND, RH, EM, JP, DS, and DY.

Anonymous said...

I am very disappointed that the security issued has been delayed until the first of next year.
I do recall that MND reported at a coffee and a BOD meeting, that she had contacted Aramark by phone and by letter about the cessation of the gate keeper services allowing 60 days notice.
It's unfortunate that Jan Mulch did not have the correct facts about that.
This is how this whole lawsuit business started with people telling untrue tales about the 6 BOd members.

Anonymous said...

I agree with L685 if RP & LM don't like change, they need to MOVE!

Anonymous said...

People of LIV
Use that suggeston box, the forms are right by the box, fill them out with your suggestions for change, let the BOD members know what you want!!

Anonymous said...

Larry Larry Larry When you speak , you really should post your information,( You know the FBI report.) Yeah right! Prove me wrong.

Anonymous said...

Don't feel sorry for Armando - his heart problems started years ago and he was told to NOT SMOKE. Even the non-smoking policy in the LIV buildings didn't stop him. Mary, if you're worried about the cost of the golf course sand, just have Armando bring a load in every morning (or afternoon) when he comes back to work.

Since the "Coffee" is not a BOD meeting, merely an informal gathering, anyone can speak at it. And who gave LD to authority to tell John that he couldn't speak.

Peterson, don't you know that LD declared several years ago that we DO NOT have a weed burr problem, those are really clover flowers that dig into you and get stuck on your clothes.

LM does like change! Is he not the one who has made changes to the park rules and to the building codes over the years whenever he feels like it? And, by the way, park rules fall under one of the Articles that need to be voted on by the owners, and I never recall voting on anything like that.The sidewalks also need to be voted on as they are on common ground.

The members of the BOD who did nothing about repairing the NEW POOL bottom and work while still under warranty should be billed for the repair, which has been put off for how many years now? Wasn't DH either the Pres or Vice-Pres when it was discovered that the job was not done right and still under warranty - and he, an owner of a pool company, did nothing.

And finally, somebody call the local FBI office and ask about LD's claim. As owners of LIV, you have every right to this info. Can anyone guess what the answer will be?

Everyone who is on and has been on the BOD is RESPONSIBLE for this mess. You have allowed this to happen by your inappropriate attitude of "oh well."

People's homes, lives and their future financial situations are not something to HO-HUM about!

Anonymous said...

I'll second that!
Nobody did anything, LD, KD, PB did it all!
The rest took a break.

Boy your good.. Can you please run for the board Anonymous person!

Your what we need!

Anonymous said...

RE: Nobody did anything...
What has LD, KD, and PB done to deserve credit?
We finally have some BOD members willing to ask questions and what happens? They get slapped with a TRO. Who did that?

Anonymous said...

There is good credit and bad credit!
In this case the old broad gets NO credit at all!
There wasn't a board really, IT WAS JUST LARRY! And a very very lacked board.

Remember how many people showed up for the meetings when the new board was elected? Everyone was excited again. Many question the owners had. There was finally a board that would listen to the people! Well the old board didn't listen to the people before and those few that are left on the board....they still are not listing to the people!
Please Larry Demalade...LEAVE!

Anonymous said...

The new BOD members are trying to do good things for LIV and to listen to the owners, but get a lawsuit and injunction filed against them by a fellow BOD member and LIV resident.
They used their OWN money for a lawyer to defend themselves against allegations that were made up by Reta Priest and LeRoy Mulch.
Now there is an agreement where both sides hopefully can work.
Don't give up on the new BOD members!
What do you suggest they do?

Anonymous said...

The remark made by the GM & PB regarding “John” not being an owner was EXTREMELY disturbing to me and should be to everyone! The change in his ownership status was a personal one and not made public. While the rule was correct the fact that the GM & PB had knowledge of it was WRONG. It seems that the GM, PB and others are now checking into owners private affairs. Wasn’t Reta Priest’s inappropriate snooping, regarding Jim Petersen, bad enough? Seems no one is safe from having their private business made public. While the information
obtained by the GM & PB was public record, just the fact that they searched it out is unacceptable.

The judge did say the recall vote was illegal and would not stand. Other than that RP, LM, PB and the SGG really got pretty much what they wanted. The GM is not leaving and can’t be spoken to or questioned by anyone but Prez DS (unless DS is absent). DS is NOT pesident/leadership material so will not question the GM on
anything. The licensed security is put on hold until after
01/01/2009. The “evil empire” should let it go at that. But NO they must try to intimidate any owner who asks a question.

The GM just didn’t stop at saying “John” wasn’t an owner, he sent a “gate keeper” to his home. The gate keeper was to enter John’s auto and remove the LIV Owner’s sticker. Come on folks, this is not right! The owner of record is entitled to two
stickers so the GM was out of line. Of course, it seems, now that the GM can continue to do what he wants.

We all need to think long and hard as to what is happening to our village. It is more than just Sour Grapes.