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If there ever was an example of what our six members of the “08” Board had to go through it was witnessed last night at the “Meet the Candidates” event. What a disgrace. What’s up with this October “08” letter that supposedly had Aramark’s response to an owner's concerns towards mismanagement in our Village?
Who in the world should care if anyone contacted our management company, especially then when they probably received a ton? Where in the Declaration or By-Laws does it state an owner is prohibited to contact the Association’s management company and express individual concerns? NOWHERE! This in my opinion appeared to be nothing more than a lame attempt to discredit a candidate who has rubbed some the wrong.
This was atrocious and did not belong at this type of gala.
I believe these three should apologize to this candidate for their inappropriate actions. If not it will once again confirm to owners that some things will never change.
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I'd like to know where Mr. Witt got the letter from Aramark. This should have been an "in house" correspondence. Wonder who gave it to him? Could only come from a couple people, and they both attacked Miss Sandberg last night. What are they so afraid of? Is this the way our president should address any owner? It was shameful. We should be looking at ways to impeach her. I'm serious.
First I want to say "Thank You" to every member of our community who is willing to give their time and energy to work on our BOD. That said....those few idiots that tried to crucify Patty Ann Sandberg hopefully do not reflect the integrity of this community.
Pat Burke should have stayed neutral during this process and she knows it! If she is not removed during the annual meeting, we all will be subject to her abuse for two more years.
Check out the March Comments/Suggestion Box for earlier comments re: Candidates Night (pre-"Target").
What a shame we have to spend time dealing with such impropriety when there’s so many issues we should be working on for the good of OUR village!
Patty Ann, my hat's off to you! Thanks for standing up with dignity against those who assaulted you!
Along with questioning the integrity of our "so called" prez, I also question the integrity of any board member who was a party to (MS?)or condoned her actions (DP, EM, BG, & JG.) MONKEYS! BG admitted he had no clue about the problems with Berry Pools. He just wants to "serve" the people of LIV. For 1 year he hasn't heard what the people of LIV are saying. I suspect he just wants to "serve" the prez! And JG admitted he had only once tried to log on to our website & had no idea what the problems were. He didn't hear us either! BG, JG, & VM said "yes" by not standing when asked if our non existent hurricane plans were sufficient! I suspect they don't even know if we have a plan! EM, the moderator, just sat back & allowed PB & LD to "yell" at Miss Sandberg. Shame on you all! You have turned our village into a Joke!
They seem to think PB is "so smart". Yeah....smart like a fox! They better hope she doesn't turn on them! They will then experience the wrath & retaliation that many, yes MANY, LIV owners already experience.
RE: .. the question has been bothering me dated 2/14 ... LD is gone, etc...
Nope.... the viper raised his venom-ridden-head again at Candidates Night. He was a scripted part of the attack brigade. You ask why the cool group is throwing $ at the election -- pots of perks at the end of their rainbows maybe? Watch cool carefully but watch OUR money with vigilance.
RE: If she is not removed during the annual meeting...
AND just how do we go about getting that done. Sign me up ! ! !
Impeachment is a great idea! Owners saw PB's true colors. There are a number of people that have taken no sides in the past that thought her behavior was venomous and despicable. What do you think? Are there enough people that will stand up to have an effective outcome? Let's hear your thoughts TODAY!
RE. "impeachment is a great idea" and "just how do we go about getting that done".
Here's how, straight from the By-Laws:
Removal of Directors. At any duly convened regular or special meeting, anyone or more of the Directors may be removed with or without cause by the affirmative vote of the Voting Members casting
not less than a majority of the total of members in the Association, and a successor may then and there be elected to fill the vacancy thus created.
Majority of total members = 51% of 1024 = 523 votes to remove any director.
I will support any effort to impeach PB. She is despicable to say the least and I believe there is more for her in being on the BOD than any of us could imagine.
I've talked to a number of owners who were at the Candidate Night - most stay clear of "sides". Now 90% are voting for Patty Ann! PB's ploy seems to have backfired! She and her team of misfits HELPED Patty Ann!!!
523 votes to impeach ... that's an arduous task - one that will take some time and effort! Of course, if PS continues to strike more blows, she may seal her fate sooner than later!
Whoops -- I goofed! Typo in "I've talked to a number ....
it's PB that strikes blows on people NOT PS - Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're right, it is an arduous task to recall someone from the BOD. I think we should gather up everyone we can & give it a shot. Don't forget though....even if we cannot get her removed from the BOD...the BOD themselves can remove her as president & we should all call, write, e-mail our other BOD members & tell them this is what we "the people" want! They say they want to serve......then start serving!
Majority of total members = 51% of 1024 = 523 votes to remove any director.
That wont happen but we can try! We will sign anything to get her out but you better hurry people are leaving! You have to get it while its fresh in everyone mines. Yesterday was just awlful. Many people seen what she is.
I would like to see her leave also. I hope the new board will vote someone else in. Patty Ann or Anita. We need new people.
I already voted for Patty!
The last several comments posted towards this article created a technical problem on my end and were accidently deleted; to those bloggers please remit one more time. I apologize.
Re:You're right, it is an arduous task to recall someone from the BOD. I think we should gather up everyone we can & give it a shot.
As good as it sounds an impeachment or recall is near impossible at this time. Reta Priest had three months with a bunch of support and couldn’t come near to making it valid. First of all, you need the same validation support as current Annual Meeting election proxies (photo ID or notarized). Time wise it’s impossible. Second you have to win the argument of PB’s first amendments rights. As spiteful as she talked it still was a question that showed everyone the type of President our Village really has. That I believe was invaluable and at this time enough. To do what you want is what many would like to see but will fall short and ultimately be spun to her advantage. I would suggest leaving dead piggy’s lie for now.
Re: As good as it sounds.
I agree with you. It is a near impossible task. It is just hard to believe we live in a place where there are a few who are so very malicious. We call LIV the place to be but I really wonder.
Re: As good as it sounds...recall is near impossible at this time.
Maybe, but it would certainly send a message that the people are tired of this garbage!
All it takes is for one person to make a motion from the floor to remove the director, during the New Business part of the agenda. Then need a second. Then there would either be discussion or could go straight to a vote.
Even if not enough votes present to remove (523), proxies could be collected but must be filed BEFORE the election. Even though the election committee requires notarized or photo ID proxies for the ELECTION, these are NOT proxies for the election, these are proxies for removal of director and the By-Laws do not restrict the proxies with notary or photos!
They'll try to say that we can't do it because it's not on Agenda, but By-Laws clearly allow Old and New Business to be conducted immediately after the election!
Lets' give it a try, folks!
re. Second you have to win the argument of PB’s first amendments rights
Removal is not about her forst amendment right, the removal is ablut people who have had enough. Besides, By-Laws say you can remove a director with or WITHOUT cause.
The current president is so divisive, rude and unethical. If owners flood the directors email and phone lines with calls to replace the president, they would be wise to listen. They say they want to serve, then show us. It should be done publicly, on stage, in front a microphone. I want to see how each one of them votes. Let's demand they include us.
RE: 3/4 10:05AM as good as it sounds ... recall is nearly impossible at this time ...
Your comments are interesting and valid but confusing. 1) Exactly what are you wanting to do and how do you intend on doing it? And, 2) Is the timing right to actually accomplish your goal; to WIN? Just "making a statement" is of no particular value and will take away from a more organized effort (allbeit, longer effort)to reach the same conclusion. Please expound, I could certainly be wrong.
Do we need to be in a hurry to dredge our canals?.........NO
Is a new permit needed or hard to get or expensive?..........NO
Does Freeland need our dredging worse then we need to get rid of them?......................YES
Is Freeland willing to pay to get our dredgings?..............NO
Maybe Freeland thinks PB will get the dredgings for him free.
If you are satisfied to have our BOD spend your money willy-nilly,then vote the status quo.If you are tired of the wasteful spending then vote for a new voice.
I suspect the negative few who attacked the Board Members and supported Miss Sandberg are the ones that were soundly defeated in the last election. The Village does not need the mud slinging we had then. One step in the right direction would be to require all blog posts to be signed with lot numbers as we do for the comment box. Hiding behind anonymity promotes cheap shots and mis-information.
It was an interesting Candidates forum! I am concerned that Patty Sandberg is a loose cannon. She asks questions but to who? Apparently she does not ask the Board President, on finances (her area of expertise) she can't understand a budget and the finance report and does not ask the Finance officer for clarification, she is out seeking dredge bids which is premature since they can't bid without the Engineering work being done first. And she does not go to Tom Bergsma for information on the extensive research he has done on this issue. One wonders what her motivation is or if she is being directed by others- in any event she flunks in the "plays well with others" category.
She does have a nice smile!
I believe the people who held a neutral positon at candidate's night were shocked and embarassed at the treatment of a candidate. Unfortunately, you had to be present to get the full effect.Our leadership is very, very sad.
RE:"I suspect the negative few who attacked the board members and support Ms Sandberg"
Who attacked a board member? The attack was on Ms Sandberg. And the attackers are the ones that did all the mud slinging last year. You are either very confused or are trying to confuse the issue!
I also find it very interesting that you are "against" hiding behind anonymity but sign your self as anonymous.
RE: "Patty Sandberg is a loose cannon"
First of all you are wrong about her getting bids for dredging. If you were listening she said she talked with people about bids to determine whether we need dredging or not. Second, Bergsma's only expertise is a long stick & a lot of bluster. Third, since when was our prez. an expert on finances? Her only expertise is finding ways to spend your money. She is an attorney for God's sakes! And as for our finance officer....she has never been clear on anything. She takes all of her direction from the attorney.
RE: I suspect the negative few who attacked the Board Members and ... One step in the right direction would be to require all blog posts to be signed with lot numbers... and Hiding behind anonymity promotes cheap shots...
Quote: "Require all blog posts to be signed with lot #" ... WHAT? This is NOT Nazi Germany!
And, yes, Ms. Cheapshot "hiding behind anonymity" certainly did promote cheap shots -- yours. Put you money where your mouth is ... What did you say your name was??
RE: I suspect the negative few who attacked the Board Members and supported Miss Sandberg are the ones that were soundly defeated in the last election.
No one "attacked the Board members". You are not entitled to your own version of history. Everyone in that room knows otherwise. And "soundly defeated" .... Now, that's certainly a perversion of the truth. A creative use of proxies won that election!
FYI --- In case you don't know: following is contents of a letter from William E. Hughston, Human Resources, Aramark, totally refuting LD's allegations on Candidates Night: Dated 3/5/2010
"Dear Ms. Sandberg: It was nice speaking with you yesterday. At your request, I am writing to let you know that I have looked into your concern about voice messages and recordings of you and, based on my review,I could not corroborate that any voice messages or recordings exist (or ever existed). As I understand -- and to be clear -- you heard that recordings may exist from another resident of Long Island Village (and former Aramark employee) with whom you are having a dispite - not Aramark. Based on my review, this statement appears to be completely unfounded.... Sincerely, William E. Hughston, Human Resources Aramark." (If you want a copy of Aramark's letter, I'm sure Patty Ann will provide you with one.)
It's not rocket science to see who the honest individul here...
Patty Ann -- I sure hope you still care enough to run for the LIV BOD next year. You are EXACTLY who we need looking after our best interests!!!
I find your entry a bit confusing. Patty Ann ran for the BOD because she felt she had something of value to offer. She was falsely "accused" in front of a large audience . This manufactured lie was not her doing, but I believe she had every right to answer her accuser.
MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO! Come on give it a rest! Not everyone has to act like idots! Have some class for crying out loud! And dont compare Patty with PB and LD.
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